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Our Report on Friday, February 13, 2009, Public Hearing on the zoning code review at the Village Municipal Hall:
Mayor Ferraris began the meeting by saying that more proposed amendments at this point would include the following, announced by Trustee Scarlato: definition of a tennis court is being amended, offices are allowed on 2nd floor business Main St spaces, B&B & daycare facilities are being dealt with-an owner w/in 500 ft will have to be notified if either is being established, rather than only immediate neighbors. Some use changes to 2nd floor uses have been made, and C of Os will be required within 30 days of occupancy rather than before.
Mayor Ferraris mentioned that Tim Culver & Dave Lee had questioned the Architectural Review Board's input, and said that any enlargement between 2,000 & 3,000 SF will be subject to the ARB, which will seek to ensure that that enlargement is in character with the historical look of the village only.
The Mayor said that he and the Board had decided, for this meeting, to better explain changes of use in the zoning code by using flow charts to explain how applications would work. Rich Warren, the Village planner, then presented 2 charts showing tables with existing use vs. proposed use, less than or equal to 3,000SF, or greater than 3,000SF.
In the case of a space that is less than 3,000SF, with a change being from permitted use to permitted use with no increase of parking or sewage, such a change will be exempt from review. If there is an increase, then a site plan application will be submitted, but if the change is minimal, a building permit will be allowed with a waiver. If a building is being expanded, it will have to go through the ARB, and that will also bring up the same conditions of exemptions and waivers as stated in the code, but most will be allowed through the exemption process unless, as had been stated, there was an increase in parking or sewage that necessitated greater examination.
Spaces greater than 3,000SF will will not qualify for an exemption and will have to go through a site plan application, although a waiver is still a possibility if all requirements are met, which will be available by request from the Planning Board. Warren emphasized that 89% of the number of uses listed in the code are permitted, so the vast majority of permitted uses in the retail category will be exempt.
Ted Conklin of the Sag Harbor Business Association wanted to know if the SIC definitions used in the code had been collapsed into "dry use", e.g., categories. He had perceived the use charts as leading to bureaucratic hurdles and asked if this were no longer true. The Mayor & Trustee Scarlato said that there is no difference from before, it had just not been understood. Ted mentioned that the issue may not be about the flow chart itself, but how it works in actual application.
Tim Culver, attorney for Ted Conklin, said that this meeting and the previous have been incredibly helpful. He asked if you go from one permitted use to another would you have to apply for a C of O? The Mayor said it will be exactly the same as today, since it's a new owner that triggers need for a C of O. He mentioned that Save Sag Harbor wanted some control of uses, but that they decided against further control. Culver asked how, operationally, how does a shoe store change to a hat store? Scarlato answered that renovations will trigger need for a building permit. The Mayor asked Rich Warren to give a specific example of change of one store to another. Warren said that there will be no site plan review, but a change of use may need a change of C of O to reflect change of use. There is standardization on the definition of what is a clothing store, what is a hat store, etc. and that it is important to modernize our zoning code. There won't be a planning board review mandated, there will just be a record of the use changing. He said that this can be done at the village Municipal Building counter with the building inspector, probably while you wait. The Mayor asked if this were consistent with previous procedure; Warren said yes.
Conklin asked a question on behalf of Bob Evjen, president of the Chamber of Commerce and not present at the meeting, in regard to a procedural issue, and stated that Evjen wants flexibility to maintain the Village's vibrancy. The question was, if the sensibility of a particular use is personally disturbing to the building inspector, what would prevent the inspector from blocking a permit? Who has authority over this possibility? The Mayor said that it will be the ARB who will review these proposed changes, if they were deemed aesthetically disturbing or not in keeping with the village's character. The Mayor said that this has been in the code forever. Anthony Tohill, village attorney, said things are being improved in this revision since the 1994 code.
Ted Conklin said he wants to see changes that have been discussed so far in published form, and the Mayor promised that these new promised changes will be incorporated but that the village cannot afford to publish changes to the code for very single meeting.
Laura Grenning wanted clarification about why she now has to mention use at all since, having established two businesses in the builiding, she never had done that before. Scarlato said that she was supposed to have notified village in both instances. The Mayor repeated that there was no chance of a change being turned down if the change was permitted use to permitted use.
Susan Stroud wanted to understand whether the ARB has ability to judge interior space changes? Tohill said the Preservation League has always included this kind of legislation in code as per the fact that the ARB does have the ability to judge interior alterations if these alterations are visible from the street. These alterations would have to be deemed by the ARB to be architecturally incongruous with the historic character of the village. The ARB cannot, however, judge the merchandise found in the store, even if these items are visible from the street. For example, if there was a painting of a nude in a storefront, the ARB would not have the jurisdiction to have this piece of merchandise removed from the storefront. But, if this same store had a built-in display case, painted in a bright orange, and the display case was visible from the street, the ARB could request it be removed or altered. Normally, this type of code enforcement is driven by resident complaints to the building inspector. The building inspector would then notify the store and ask them to receive ARB approval for the display.
Nada Barry asked where the use list was obtained, and about the waterfront district's accepted uses? Why would an art gallery, instead of a souvenir or gift shop, particularly if the gift shop were related to the water, be allowed? Where would a farmer's market be allowed? etc. The Mayor stated that the table of uses says that if a yacht yard has always existed, it is grandfathered. But in this instance a yacht yard is included as special exception. A marina, e.g., would necessitate certain special exception standards, and for waterfront uses there are specific demands. The farmer's market was described as being just a use of village property, not a permanent business. Barry asked if she could have her gift shop on Long Wharf? Scarlato said the idea came from the differentiation of one retail store to another, and to control the kinds of retail use, they decided to separate them using the same use standards in place by Southampton & other towns.
Joanne Powell commended the efforts to revise the code to protect the village and offered comment on 3 areas. Affordable housing in Sag Harbor, she said, is seen as ideal by other communities. She feels housing will be lost by use of 2nd floor spaces as offices and other retail uses. Funding for affordable housing may occur, but there is now not enough space for said affordable housing. Powell doesn't find a definition for multiple dwellings in the code; since this use is prohibited, she suggested a distinction be made between it & apartment use. She also thinks parking areas should be considered part of lot coverage, and would like to see a definition of paving to be included in lot coverage.
Tim Culver again thanked the Board, and asked them to speak on the question of non-conforming use to conforming use. Scarlato said that that is under discussion, and feels a lot of progress has been made.
Conklin said that the Sag Harbor Business Association appreciates the work Board has done, and knows that the code will be passed. He asked the Board to recognize that businesses are vested parties and should be the parties most under consideration. He mentioned their long-time participation in village. He stated that everyone is looking for the same thing, which is sustaining the character and makeup of Main St. His concern is an implication of too much bureaucracy. He said that he would like to express the general consensus of the SHBA that the SHBA will work with the Village on the code. He also complained that we don't have a comprehensive plan. He would like a broad conversation about what we all want the village to be like 100 years from now, and added that there is not a scintilla of evidence to say that an Office District is necessary. He would like to see the village and its government commit to a visionary plan for Sag Harbor.
Stephen Longmire asked how long will public comments will be permitted? The reply was that comments are not closed after this meeting but that a date for it is pending, most likely to be some time in March.
Barbara Roberts asked if the Suffolk County Planning Commission Guidelines were mentioned in Code? Tohill said that that will not be done in code, but will be brought up in various permitting processes on a case-by-case basis.
Robby Stein wanted to better articulate a question he'd asked at the last meeting, by example. The question was: if a house burns down, will there be a new setback mandated? because such a thing could change the character of the Village. In rebuilding, the property owner could elect to move the building back, but the ARB might want to persuade the owner to move it forward. Tohill said that he had not been asked this question before and would ponder it.
The mayor then asked how long it would take to redraft and reprint the Code. Attorney Tohill said that he could speedily get to the necessary changes. This will include the revisions made by the board and cleaning up some of the codicils that are vague, all of which have been discussed in the past two Public meetings. It was determined that it would take several weeks to redraft and reprint the document and make it available. A Public Notice of this version of the code would then be announced in the press at least 10 days before the next meeting. The date for this to be done is no later then March 5.
This procedure was read into the record by Trustee Scarlato, which stated that the Village had complied with all Code Revision Requirements, which include the SEQRA review, Public Hearings, and Required Notices, including demonstration of the requirements needed for a Comprehensive Plan. A motion was made and passed that on March 19th at 5PM a public hearing would again be held to discuss the published code.
The revision of the zoning code has passed!
Here's our report from last Friday, May 29th's, meeting:
Tiffany Scarlato referenced the history of the process of the revision; the hours of writing, discussing, opening the discussion to the public, the Generic Environmental Impact Statement concerns presented, etc. No adverse environmental impacts were noted by any authorities when land, water, cultural and other resources were considered. Further, she read, the State Environmental Quality Review Act requirements were met, and noted that all parts of applicable NY State rules & regulations have been met and all surrounding villages & towns have been notified of the revision.
Mayor Ferraris stated that since the comprehensive plan, revision of zoning code, and consideration of GEIS requirements have been met, the Board, noting that further amendments of Chapter 55 revision need not be made and that a negative declaration has been filed on SEQRA and published in the Sag Harbor Express, is formally approving and passing the revision of the zoning code (Chapter 55). The proper papers are now to be filed with all pertinent authorities.
The revision of the zoning code was passed and carried.
Mayor Ferraris thanked Tiffany Scarlato, Rich Warren and Anthony Tohill especially for their hard work during the formulation and enactment of this code revision, and mentioned how it was a process done both for and with much input from the people of the village.
It should also be noted that further amendments may be made in the future, as needed.
Save Sag Harbor applauds the passage of this revision! Our attorney will review the finalized Zoning Code and will get back to us with his thoughts. Look for an update in a future newsletter.
A report on May 17th’s Community Forum
We had a wonderful meeting May 17, 2009, with our brilliant, dedicated community organizations. We hope to have more in the future. It was great to see common ground and share concerns and focus. Everyone expressed an interest that it be repeated in the future with an increased number of groups.
All representatives spoke well, and attendance was good (at least 75 people, we estimate). Perhaps as important was to hear the various groups speaking to each other about common concerns. There was an obvious sense that uniting on various issues would strengthen us as a community. We also hope that any groups not attending this time would consider doing so next time, so we can update each other.
We urge you all to look for community developments by checking this email and also by visiting the groups' websites, many of which are available on our "service" and "act locally" web pages.
If anyone from another representative group is reading this, and would like to attend the next meeting, do please let us know at info@savesagharbor.com . We know that not all of our community was present, but we hope to expand the next meeting. It was both lively and truly informative for all who attended.
Looking for news on the One Ferry Road development? Lots has been happening, and for some updating, we recommend a piece published in the Sag Harbor Express posted online July 31st, 2009.
A complementary article published at the same time in the Express mentions another aspect of the land in question, in which Mayor Gilbride suggests a park on part of the land.
In the August 13 issue of the Sag Harbor Express, two important articles should be read, one about the Village being sued, and the other about Village Board pondering legal action in regard to the acquisition of the aforementioned property.
To the left: the proposed condos as seen looking from the Windmill towards the 7-11 parking lot.
September 11th 2007
Mayor Ferraris and Village Board of Trustees
Sag Harbor Municipal Building
P.O. Box 660
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
Dear Mayor Ferraris and Village Board of Trustees,
On Sunday, September 8th 2007 at 2PM CONPOSH and SAVE SAG HARBOR held a joint meeting in the Sanctuary of the Old Whalers’ Church to discuss the myriad of issues that face our Village today.
There were 364 people in the audience.
We invited three public speakers to weigh in on the important issues before us. The speakers were Kevin MacAllister – Peconic Bay keeper; Bob DeLuca – President, Group for the East End and Jefferson Murphree – Professional Planner and local North Haven resident.
Other people who gave presentations were Lester Ware - Personal Best; Jim Henry – SAVE SAG HARBOR; Valerie Justin and Molly Dougenis, Local residents re One Ferry Road; April Gornik re SAVE SAG HARBOR’s Sunday, October 7th Benefit from 4 to 7 PM; Barbara Roberts for Susan Mead re SAVE SAG HARBOR legal committee.
As you know at the end of CONPOSH meetings the assembled audience votes on resolutions that they would like brought in front of the Village Board and/or applicable Boards. It was unanimously voted that the following seven resolutions be presented to you tonight -- the September 11th 2007 Village Board of Trustees Meeting.
We the assembled audience respectfully ask:
1) Regarding Our Waters
…that the Village focus available resources to better understand and quantify the storm water-related problems and risks that emanate from the Haven’s Beach waterfront Park and to pursue remedies that would enhance the public benefits of the Park to include effective storm water management.
2) Regarding Our Sewage
We ask that the Village pay extra attention to the performance of the Sag Harbor Sewage Treatment Plant noting that it has a major direct impact on the community’s harbor and adjacent waterways. The protection of the clean water resources in our Village must be preserved as an essential criteria in all future Village consideration regarding growth and development.
3) Regarding BOAT DISCHARGE
That the Village clearly understand that as the boating anchorage has expanded and increased over time, there is speculation that illegal sanitary discharges are occurring. In the interest of ensuring clean and safe surface waters, we ask that increased enforcement of the No-Discharge Zone is ESSENTIAL and be stringently enforced.
4) Regarding A MASTER PLAN
We call upon the Village of Sag Harbor to responsibly address the multitude of development projects and community planning issues it now faces through the preparation of a formal community-based, consensus-driven Master Plan.
Properly undertaken the Master Plan will develop a clear vision and implementation strategy for preserving the unique and historic character of the Village in an affirmative and orderly manner rather than a defensive case-by-case basis.
As part of this process the Village must impose a comprehensive development moratorium that will prevent major development projects from moving forward while the Plan is being prepared.
The Master Plan must also be supported through the completion of a Generic Environmental Impact Statement to assure that the community’s vision is firmly grounded in the most stringent environmental assessment.
In addition and among other things, we ask that the Village do an analysis of building and store square footage; that the Village consider Mixed-Use as well as Multi-Use development; that the Village consider maximum building size and height limits; that the Village should prepare architectural design standards that should carefully consider what has already been developed in historic Sag Harbor center - in particular, the village should analyze its important view-sheds and gateways.
5) Regarding An Advisory Group to research COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS around the U.S.
That the Village of Sag Harbor appoint a small (3-4) volunteer advisory committee of outside experts to examine the experience of Community Land Trusts and similar institutions around the U.S. and report back to the Village within 60 days on the implications of “Saving Sag Harbor.”
6) Regarding The Commercial Moratorium
That the Village extends the Moratorium on Commercial Sight Plans to 18 months or until the Master Plan is completed.
7) Regarding Meeting with the Mayor
Conposh and SAVE SAG HARBOR would like to put together a small group (5-6) to talk one-on-one with the Mayor and Attorneys Tohill and/or Thiele in an effort to coordinate our efforts and so work together to keep Sag Harbor a very special place.
Respectfully submitted,
MIA GROSJEAN
For: Save Sag Harbor and CONPOSH
Valerie Justin, Priscilla Ciccariello, John Linder, JoAnne Carter, Jim Henry, Barbara Roberts, April Gornik, Seth Grossman, Lester Ware, Helen Samuels, and Susan Mead
Report on the meeting of October 24, 2007 at the Sag Harbor Municipal Building
In attendance were Mayor Ferraris, the VillageBoard of Trustees, planner Richard Warren, and attorney Anthony Tohill. Mr Warren and Mr Tohill gave similar presentations (see above) to what was given at the September 27th meeting, and owners of commercial district properties and others were invited to speak. Some of the concerns discussed by property owners were the vesting-in of large-scale business properties as "anchor stores" in order to protect the property values of such, by considering them a part of the diversity we are all interested in maintaining to preserve the Village's unique composition; questions about the definition of what would constitute a "pre-existing non-conforming" space for the proposed rezoning; the need for people who must move businesses in an emergency to obtain exemptions from the site plan review moratorium now in place; a suggestion to make tax breaks for property owners who would maintain apartments above their businesses at affordable rates, to address the affordable housing issue; worries that any restrictions resulting from rezoning would be anti-free enterprise and the suggestion that free enterprise would result in a natural process of selection that is in keeping with the way the village has developed; and many thanks voiced to the Mayor, Village Board of Trustees, Mr Warren and Mr Tohill for being inclusive in their approach. It was emphasized that the suggestions for rezoning/redistricting, and research into the above, all constitute a work in progress, and that nothing has been formally decided, but all suggestions are under consideration.
What is the Village working on?
This is the text of the October 24, 2007 Worksession Meeting Notice:
The Sag Harbor Village Board of Trustees and the Zoning Committee will hold a special work session on the second floor meeting room of the Municipal Building, Main Street, Village of Sag Harbor on October 24th to present the preliminary findings and recommendations of the commercial district to the property owners within the Village Business (VB) District.
As part of an overall zoning code update, the Board of Trustees of the Village of Sag Harbor has commenced an evaluation of the Village Business District zoning provisions to assess whether the existing code sufficiently protects the historic, commercial character of the Main Street core commercial district. On September 27th, a progress report to the Trustees was made by their consultants, Anthony B Tohill, Esq. (Special Counsel to the Village), and Richard E. Warren, AICP (the Village Planning Consultant). The purpose of the meeting was to: (a) outline the issues that have been raised; (b) discuss some of the initial results of the research that was undertaken; and (c) begin dialogue regarding potential recommendations to address the issues.
In general the Issues of Concern were identified as follows:
A.Protecting the existing historic character of the "core" commercial district, changes to which would threaten the "identity" of the Village of Sag Harbor.
B.Maintaining appropriate size and scale of commercial uses.
C.Protecting against change in uses from a retail/shopping district to one which contains non-retail uses.
D.Maintaining the diversity of uses which support the vitality of the shopping district.
E.Encouraging the location of businesses providing services and products used by Sag Harbor population.
F.Establishing provisions to encourage affordable housing within the area for the local workforce.
G.Ensuring that the infrastructure of the Village (parking, sewage treatment, roads, services, etc.) is capable of supporting future development or changes in the Village.
H.Managing the recent influx of attached unit condominium and apartment projects that could potentially change the character of the Village.
I.Maintaining the historic character of the Village by establishing comprehensive and appropriate development regulations.
A detailed inventory of the existing commercial district was presented at the meeting, along with a series of draft recommendations. The meeting included a discussion regarding the avenues available to the Village of Sag Harbor to appropriately control changes in the Sag Harbor commercial district that would negatively effect the vibrancy of the existing historic character of Sag Harbor and its special "sense of place".
A series of Preliminary Recommendations were presented, as follows:
1.Refine the boundaries of the Village Business District (VB) to follow what is considered the "core" of the commercial downtown shopping district.
2.Create a new zoning district–the Office District (OD)–which provides opportunities for development and use for professional offices, financial institutions and the like.
3.Redefine the Permitted (P) and Special Exception (SE) Uses within the Village Business District (VB) to focus on supporting the retail and shopping trade by restricting the further expansion of office-type of uses within the "core" of the commercial shopping district along Main Street. This would eliminate offices, professional offices, real estate offices, financial services, banks and the like from within the VB District. All of these existing uses would become pre-existing and non-conforming.
4.Develop a list of Permitted (P) and Special Exception (SE) Uses within the proposed Office District (OD) to encourage the utilization of this outlying business district.
5.Create general and specific standard that are appropriate for those uses which are deemed to be Special Exception (SE) Uses.
6.Develop a series of design standards for the Office District (OD) to allow development to occur in an appropriate size and scale with due consideration to the neighborhood.
7.To encourage and support the local "small-town feel" of the commercial shopping district and maintain a diversity of shopping opportunities, it is recommended that the Village establish a maximum gross floor area (GFA) for any individual use of commercial space.
8.To encourage and support the local "small-town feel" of the commercial shopping district and maintain a diversity of shopping opportunities, it is recommended that the Village establish a maximum gross floor area (GFA) for any individual use of commercial space. [repetition left in because it is in the original distributed print-out]
9.In order to further encourage small shops to exist and maintain the diversity of the stores within the Village, it is recommended that the Village establish a maximum street or store frontage requirement for each use within the core commercial district.
10.Develop regulations that encourage accessory apartments on the second floor (and above) in commercial buildings within the Village Business District (VB).
11.Develop a provision which will permit offices on the second floor of a structure where such office is an accessory to a first floor commercial use, and establish a maximum gross floor area (GFA) for such an accessory office.
12.Examine developing provisions which permit, on a limited basis, the establishment of seasonal outdoor seating for restaurant uses located within the Village Business District (VB).
13.Evaluate and adjust the parking regulations so the requirements meet the needs of particular uses. In addition, it is recommended that the Parking Trust Fund provisions of the Zoning Code be evaluated to determine whether they are appropriate.
14.Create a process which appropriately deals with the issues related to a "Change-of-Use" for properties within the Village as a whole, and more particularly within the Village Business District (VB).
15.Create a new and more detailed Table of Uses for all zoning districts within the Inc. Village of Sag Harbor, and tie those uses to the Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) Code to allow for a standardization of use definitions.
16.Define an appropriate Site Plan Review process. Coordinate agency reviews within Village. Adjust timeframes to make them reasonable. Establish a pre-application review conference as an option.
17.Prepare a new zoning map for the Inc. Village of Sag Harbor, which clearly defines the new district boundaries, as well as the limit of the Village Historic District.
The work session to be held on October 24th is intended to allow for business property owners to better understand the issues that face Sag Harbor, and allow them to provide input into the process. We hope to see you there.
Report on the Briefing of Sept 27th, 2007
At a 2-hour meeting open to the public at the Firehouse on Brick Kiln Road on September 27th, Mayor Gregory Ferraris and the Village Board of Trustees were briefed by their planner, Richard Warren and their zoning attorney Anthony Tohill. Since it was a public meeting, quite a few members of Save Sag Harbor were present to hear the first glimpse of the work that the village representatives have been undertaking to try to deal with the growth and changes in character threatening the village. The planner reviewed the survey of existing buildings and uses in the business district and the potential creation of 5 sub-districts within the Main Street retail and office district. Existing banks and other professional offices will be vested in, but this rezoning would try to retain the vibrant, social, alive-after-6PM character of the village, which is dependent on a healthy balance of retail and professional storefronts. It was suggested that maximum retail size should be considered in conjunction with a Master Plan for the area. Tony Tohill briefed the Board on the legal framework that must be used in the State of New York, including the ability to create development and design standards to preserve the Village's character and the inability of a village or town to ban specific formula stores. This briefing appears to be the start of the public process which may continue for several months. We appreciate everyone's hard work and look forward to hearing more.
Below are the results of the September 8th meeting at the First Presbyterian (Old Whalers') Church. The letter, below, was read to the Mayor and Board of Trustees at the September 11th, 2007 meeting.
WE ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE:
Thanks to your support, Save Sag Harbor hired legal and planning experts/advisors.
We have retained Dwight Merriam of Robinson & Cole, LLP, author of
"The Complete Guide to Zoning", and Frank Fish of BFJ Planning,
a member of the New York Planning Federation, to complement research into the
updating of the Village's zoning code and to investigate trusts, comprehensive plans,
and other creative solutions to protect Sag Harbor's integrity and character.
For information on their respective fields of expertise, please visit:
http://www.rc.com/BioDHM.htm and http://www.bfjplanning.com/
We, and they, look forward to working with Mayor Ferraris, the Village Board of Trustees, and the Village's representatives in finding fair solutions to the challenges that now face us.
THE FORMATION OF A BENEFIT DISTRICT
On December 14th, 2007, Mayor Gregory Ferraris met with concerned citizens at a talk sponsored by CONPOSH at the First Presbyterian (Old Whalers') Church regarding a "Benefit District" he has proposed, and for which a New York State grant has been written and will be submitted for funding. It is thought that the Village will hear whether this grant has been funded in about 6 weeks' time.
In brief, Benefit Districts have been formed all over New York State in response to problems shared between villages and towns. Our Benefit District would include East Hampton Town, Southampton Town, North Haven Village and the Hamlet of Noyac. At the meeting, the mayor said that the need for a Gateway Study had spurred this idea--the gateway problem being the Bridgehampton/Sag Harbor Turnpike's potential development into a sort of Country Rd 39, with big boxes looming on the edge of Sag Harbor. Such a study couldn't include both Sag Harbor's input and Southampton Town's input with districting as it is now.
The concurrent need for cost-sharing was brought home by the proposal of many villagers who wanted to purchase the Methodist Church for shared use by the community and its congregation. The Benefit District, once formed, could apply for New York State municipal services grants. Shares involved would be determined by use assessments (Southampton having the greatest share). In spite of the fears of some, it would NOT involve tax-assessments/reassessments.
Other concerns addressed by the Benefit District would be affordable housing, traffic and traffic circulation problems and environmental concerns (including waste treatment, storm water runoff and harbor pollution). Shared services could be, for example, the purchase of co-ops and police sharing. Although inter-municipal agreements can presently occur, if a Benefit District were established Sag Harbor would be able to work more expeditiously and specifically on its own behalf.
The formation of a Benefit council could necessitate the appointment of council members by the Village/Town Boards. This Benefit District Council could become a potential lobbying body in regard to developmental problems.
The Mayor also mentioned his continued interest in a comprehensive plan for the Village of Sag Harbor. A comprehensive plan would be separate from the establishment of a Benefit District as the Benefit District includes lands outside the Village Boundary and does not tackle zoning or code issues.
We applaud the Mayor for taking this very forward-looking initiative!
Save Sag Harbor has been accepted in the Sag Harbor Chamber of Commerce
As you know, Save Sag Harbor is committed to various public awareness activities and campaigns in an effort to reach out to the entire community. We are planning public gatherings to expand our and the community's involvement and education in the pressing issues facing us, and we have most recently applied to join the Sag Harbor Chamber of Commerce. We have done this specifically to invite renters, business owners, and commercial property owners to express their concerns, views, and to give us general input. Those opinions and concerns will be brought to the advisors and planners we've hired to educate us and the community on creative solutions that will benefit both merchants and the Sag Harbor community at large. We will be sharing information with the Mayor and Village Board of Trustees, the business community, and the community at large in such a way that we can all benefit, and can all participate in keeping our village sustainably intact while it continues to grow. And of course, keeping in mind where this all started, we want to remind you to shop locally!
Some of us attended a dinner given by the Sag Harbor Chamber of Commerce Thursday evening, the 31st January, at the Paradise Restaurant in Sag Harbor, in order to formally introduce ourselves to the Chamber. We have invited their input on any and all fronts.
We warmly invite business leaders, all merchants, our members, and everyone else in the community to express your concerns, input, and ideas to us so that we can offer them to the people we've hire to advise and educate us. Please feel free to write us at info@savesagharbor.com; no emails will be overlooked.
PROPOSED One Ferry Road CONDOMINIUMS
As you may know, our friends at CONPOSH held a very informative meeting February 15th, 2008 at the Old Whalers' Church regarding a proposal from a developer who would like permission to build 22 condominiums, with 22 boat slips, beside the Sag Harbor/North Haven bridge, where the Harborview Professional Building now stands along the waterfront. Many Sag Harbor and North Haven residents (and others!) have expressed concerns about the size and placement of the proposed development, noting that it will block traffic, water views, and possibly even access to the waterfront. The review process will move forward soon, with most of Sag Harbor's boards involved. Many local residents would like to see some or all of this waterfront property preserved as a public park. You can add your voice to this effort by contacting Mary Wilson, Community Preservation Fund Manager for Southampton Town, asking that she make the property (1,3 & 5 Ferry Rd.) a priority, and by contacting Southampton's Town Council (same address as in the above letter) with the same message. Also, we urge you to copy Sag Harbor Mayor Gregory Ferraris on your messages, since he has expressed the hope that we might think about regional planning for the greater Sag Harbor area.
[date], 2008
Mary Wilson
Community Preservation Fund Manager
116 Hampton Road
Southampton, NY 11968
Dear Ms. Wilson,
I/We wish to express my/our concerns at the proposed development for condominiums to be erected at the base of the Sag Harbor/North Haven bridge. if constructed, this development would restrict access to the waterfront, alter and obstruct traffic patterns, increase environmental concerns, and certainly alter the aesthetic appeal of what is arguably the most beautiful gateway to Sag Harbor Village, enjoyed by all residents of the Village and surrounding areas, and by visitors.
I/We urge you to make it a priority, when the parcel becomes available, to begin the process of allocating Community Preservation Fund money for purchase of this land for use as a public parkland.
Yours most sincerely,
______________________ _____________________________ __________________
name street city, state, zip code
This letter should also be sent to:
Mayor Gregory Ferraris
PO Box 660
Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(To print out this letter, simply highlight the text by passing your cursor over it. Then copy (Command-C on a Mac, Control-C on a PC) and paste (Command-V on a Mac, Control-V on a PC) it into any word processor or text program and print it out. We urge you to add personal information, opinions, and any necessary changes!)
Our notes from the May 15th, 2008 zoning code meeting at the Sag Harbor Village Hall. Please note: this is information was taken down by Save Sag Harbor volunteers, and is not intended to be an official transcript of the meeting!
WE ALSO URGE YOU TO READ THE ARTICLES ON OUR "NEWS" PAGE FROM THE PRESS!
Rich Warren introduced the meeting, inviting everyone to look at the new map of the various districts - VB, (Village Business) OD, (Office District) the Waterfront District, etc- of Sag Harbor as proposed in the new "Chapter 55" zoning revision proposal (which would replace the old Chapter 55). In a nutshell, the new map appears to eliminate the old marine district and merges it into a new waterfront district, and eliminates the so-called family district, which was a moderate income zone that has never been implemented. A historic district boundary line is shown marked around the village, including a flood plain zone taken from the FEMA map.
Next, the table of uses was discussed. These new codes will have uses clearly stated within the various zones as per official use-code parlance. The goal is to maintain diversity. An expedited review by planning board ONLY will be available for use changes not mandated by the revision. This is different from the current need to run use changes by more than one board.
Village core area would now be reduced to 17 instead of 23 acres, and would be all retail. But immediately outside the village core would be zoned for offices (real estate, banks, etc). The most special exemptions (SEs) would be available in the office district.
Mayor Ferraris mentioned that "enhanced SEs" would allow a variety of uses to happen in all districts. Rich Warren followed up, saying that the best way to maintain the village's character is to accommodate uses but have the power of review over the site plans. Only going to the Planning Board only should make obtaining SEs be a smoother process, instead of having to go to the ARB AND the Planning Board.
Some other things mentioned: a need for affordable housing was stressed. The maximum square footage of new businesses, based on an average of existing businesses, would be 2,000SF.
In the Office District, all the numbers are new, since the district itself is new, whereas the waterfront district remains exactly the same as its incarnation as the Marine district. Size limitations may be imposed on new apartment units.
Anthony Tohill introduced "next steps" which included:
The importance of the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA).
That the village must have a comprehensive plan. Interscience is drafting the plan based on Chapter 55, and if the Board of Trustees wants to act on zoning changes, the new comprehensive plan must be adopted.
All this must be given to town clerks of E Hampton & S Hampton, then given to the Suffolk Co Planning Commission.
It was suggested that the map exhibited at the meeting be reproduced in the SH Express, along with a summary of the new Chapter 55.
Public hearings must be made available in re: SEQRA, considering a new comprehensive plan, and Chapter 55, in order to get enactment of these changes.
Mr Tohill also mentioned inquiries from individuals & groups wanting to have meetings with town planner, the attorney and the Village Board, saying that he does not recommend this, as he feels it could in fact nullify the enactment of the code.
WHAT IFs mentioned by Mr Tohill:
1. ...someone under the present code in a current location proposes an apartment building: in the present case, the zoning code board of appeals and site planners meet, discuss parking requirements (1 parking space per unit). In the newly proposed Chapter 55, the review process would go only to the planning board, and the number of bedrooms would indicate parking spaces (at least 1.5 per bedroom), which would drastically reduce amount of residences available on any given piece of land, forming, in essence, a cap on apartment building sizes.
2. ...someone wants to build a 10,000SF store in the VB district: Under the old plan, parking would be 1 space for each 200SF, with a minimum area of 800SF: under the new ch. 55 there would be a cap on empirical data of a maximum SF area of 2,000SF, but with a 50% expansion opportunity with ARB approval.
3. ...someone wants to establish a large grocery or home furnishing type store: There would be an obvious need for more than 2,000SF, so it falls under the need for a SE use. Under the new plan, this would be applied to planning board, and the maximum space could reach 8,000SF. BUT for every 1,000SF in that kind of use greater than 3,000, there MUST be an affordable-housing upstairs apartment available.
4. ...someone wants to bring a superstore to the village: The present code doesn't address this. The new Ch. 55 prohibits it in all uses under its table of uses. (A "superstore" was later defined as any store greater than a certain amount of square footage, either in total or as a combination of stores, by which size would be out of character with the Village's norm.)
5. ...someone wants to understand how affordable housing might be available: The moderate income resident district has been available but it's never been implemented. Now, it is recommended that this article be removed from the code and instead there would be 3 different ways to introduce affordable housing: above grocery or furniture store in the VB district; in the new OD district, 10% would have to be affordable. If a property owner declines to do this, the property owner could pay $372,000 per apt proposed as off-site housing which would go into afund at 200% of going rate. If an owner did this, and then attempted to later subdivide the space, this would be penalized. Third, accessory apt would allow loans from trust fund to allow occupancy in R20 zone, not VB zone, limit bedrooms to 2 (accessory apts), require code compliance, does allow amnesty if someone already has an accessory apt., right of transferability, and caps the number of apartments at 50 for reappraisal.
6. ...someone wants to change use in VB district. The new Chapter 55 would have a simple table of uses. Under the old plan, to change from use A to use B there would be site plan review necessary and no change available with respect to parking. Under the new plan, one could apply to planning board and not have to have the full site plan review, making it an easier process.
It was also recommended that the parking trust fund be eliminated.
Further comments were as follows:
Suggested changes will continue to be made throughout the summer.
Mayor Ferraris emphasized that the Comprehensive plan is being done to insure the historic character of the Village.
Under the proposed changes, the Village would have agenda & design standards fixed. The ARB would act to to preserve historic character. Theoretically, these changes would make everything quicker and smoother, with fewer surprises. Caps would prevent 3 small stores from becoming one large store, for example.
Tohill mentioned that it will take the entire summer to go over all this, including SEQRA, the zoning code, comprehensive plan, and emphasized the need for public presentations.
He also said that what is available at the Village hall, a 160 page document, is a presentation of the code which includes the remainder of the old, present Chapter 55 and the new language proposed. He said there is no way right now to know which is remainder of present Chapter 55, and the new Chapter 55, and that they must be read side by side.
It was stated that the board will hear EVERY public comment that comes up over next few months. Meetings will start right after Memorial day and continue until everything is heard.
Mayor asked: How to facilitate these meetings? How to incorporate changes into documents? The public suggested that an electronic file to be updated should be maintained on the Village's website.
It was suggested that comments be delivered in writing to Village board, and that groups are also invited to deliver comments.
The Mayor asked for these comments to be delivered over next 3 weeks to facilitate their review.
The Library now has copies of the new Chapter 55.
The Mayor opened up the meeting to comments from the public.
Many members of the public asked for there to be a representation of Chapter 55 available online, and that there be a blog or some other online public forum to be able to extend the discussion. The Mayor and Board stated their preference for written submissions of comments and questions.
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED BY EMAIL TO:
The Mayor and Village Board of Trustees held their first public hearing regarding the draft amendments to the Village zoning code last Thursday, June 5th, 2008.
The meeting was opened by the Village attorney for the code revisions, Tony Tohill, with an outline of the Comprehensive Plan review which the Village began in January of this year.
The draft of the zoning code followed that, and the purpose of the hearing was to receive input from the public who have now been able to access copies of the amendments for about 3 weeks.
Save Sag Harbor submitted our list of questions and comments in advance, as suggested, and several of our members were at the meeting, presenting results of our web suggestion box and previous survey.
The Main Street business owners expressed the following concerns:
First, there is concern over ordinary changes of use, permitted to permitted, or from permitted to specially permitted. The problem is that most businesses on Main Street are non-conforming as to parking. Property owners want the process simple and do not understand the need for review and, futher, do not want their uses subject to current parking requirements.
Second, the mapping of the new Office District was questioned, especially along Division Street.
Third, the issue of accessory apartments was brought up which would be permitted on Main street, in the Office District, and in limited number in the R-20 (residential) district. Many owners objected to the owner- or owner-related occupany prohibition on Main Street.
Our letter to the Mayor and Board of Trustees can be downloaded by clicking: letter_re_zoning_code_june_2008.pdf.
We feel that the important thing to note is that the process has begun. For it to be meaningful, the Board of Trustees must approve the extension to the moratorium on site plan applications on this Tuesday night, the 10th of June, so if you have not made plans to attend, please do so.
How the August 4, 2008 meeting went:
The Zoning Code work session at the Municipal Building on August 4th was lively, and attended by about 100 people. We spoke out, emphasizing our chief concern about zoning against formula-based retail, and urged Village Officials to leave no stone unturned about this vital aspect of the Code. We also emphasized many other issues, and will notify you when the next public meeting, which will be the first official public hearing, is scheduled.
We have also presented results of our last survey, which almost unanimously reflected concern that formula-based retail stores be kept out of the village, and that Village store sizes and uses be maintained, to the Mayor and Board of Trustees.
It is not too late to notify the Mayor and Board of Trustees about your concerns!
The Strategic Planning Document (the comprehensive plan for the code amendments) is now available at the Municipal Building for purchase. We have made a copy available at the John Jermain Memorial Library, and there is a copy available for download via the Village's website.
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NORTH HAVEN/SAG HARBOR BRIDGE?
NEWS ABOUT ONE FERRY ROAD:
FALL, 2008: THERE HAS BEEN A SEQRA POSITIVE DECLARATION ON ONE FERRY RD PROJECT
What does this mean? It means that the developers must prepare a Draft Environmental Impact Statement before the project can be approved. This is a good step, but much has yet to be done, and funds are very much needed for legal counsel to ensure that there be no conflict to compliance, proper procedure is met, all criterion for the protection of the village gateway are determined, etc.
What is SEQRA? Please see THIS WEBSITE for an excellent primer.
THE POSITIVE DECLARATION BY THE PLANNING BOARD IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD HERE: PosDeclaration.pdf
THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXCERPT:
The Planning Board of the Inc. Village of Sag Harbor, as a lead agency, has determined that the proposed action described below may have a significant impact on the environment and that a Draft Environmental Impact Statement will be prepared.
Name of Action: EAST END VENTURES, LLC (Michael Maiden
Site Plan for 1,3,5 Ferry Road Apartments
SEQR Status: Type 1 Action
Scoping: A public scoping session to identify issues of concern shall be held before the Planning Board (the Lead Agency) at the Sag Harbor Village Hall (2nd floor meeting room), Main Street, Sag Harbor, NY on September 23, 2008 at 7:00 PM.
Reasons supporting this determination:
The Planning Board of the Inc. Village of Sag Harbor has adopted a Positive Declaration requiring that a Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) be prepared for the redevelopment of this 61,237 Sq Ft waterfront property with a 43,040 sq ft, three story building containing eighteen (18) individually-owned apartment units, along with parking facilities for 36 vehicles, an at grade swimming pool, an eighteen (18) slip marina for use by the owners of the apartment building, along with proposed site landscaping, grading and drainage improvements. By resolution dated August 26, 2008, the Planning Board determined that the implementation of the proposed action may have a significant environmental impact on the following environmental and resources:
[then follows sections detailing the categories of Marine and Wetlands Habitats, Quality of Groundwater and Surface Waters, Drainage, Flooding and Stormwater Control, Visual Character of the Community, Historic Resources (designation of the site by the NYS office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation as being within an "archaeo-sensitive area", and the potential for impacts to historic, pre-historic and paleontological resources), and Compliance with Policies of Village Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan.
We will gratefully accept funds targeted to the education of the public about this project and its importance, if you would like to contribute. Please mark your check accordingly!
Cleanup of the former gas plant in Sag Harbor is happening now
Please click on: the schedule for the toxic cleanup
Each week following the start of construction, National Grid will provide a weekly activity update for neighbors of the Sag Harbor former MGP site. The update will describe the work that has been done in the past week to implement the Remedial Action Plan, and provide a two week outlook for upcoming work, including information about any work that may impact normal community activities.
SOME QUESTIONS/COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2008
At the meeting, Jeff Bragman made a highly informative and eloquent presentation (we recommend downloading the list of topics by clicking here: scopingtopics.pdf) on various SEQRA (State Environmental Quality Review Act)-related issues. Former Mayor Pierce Hance read from the LWRP (Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan) and demonstrated that the project may oppose many of the goals and objectives of the LWRP. THANKS TO ALL WHO ATTENDED THIS IMPORTANT MEETING!
Both Save Sag Harbor and Save Our Waterfront, as well as a host of impressively informed, intelligent, and concerned citizens, most of whom are our members, presented a roster of questions and concerns that should make this process a fascinating education for the community. This input will make sure that the "One Ferry Road" development will go through extensive review on all levels, which will, hopefully, assure that the historic and scenic nature of our Village will be protected.
1. Would waterfront need to be dredged to accommodate vessels at boat slips? Will dredging or waterfront construction (bulk heading, pilings, docks) disrupt habitat or breeding grounds for marine organisms? Will the boats and boat slips affect tidal flow?
2. How will sewage and the paving for and the parking situation generally impact traffic circulation, rain and irrigation, run-off, and the sensitive harborfront environment? Has a study been mandated for how this proposed development and marina might add potential for erosion, flooding, leaching or drainage problems?
3. What is the exact zoning for the site, and how has it changed historically? It seems that the change of zone from "business" to "marina" was turned down in '92 thereby precluding the property at that time from being developed as a marina property which would have allowed boat slips.
4. A former tenant stated that basements in the current building floods, which indicates high water level at site. Have there been any test borings mandated?
5. What provisions have been made to investigate potential contamination and cleanup from nearby toxic sites from dredging and building?
6. The land appears to be sinking at parking lot area of the cement bldg. & the old Rte. 114. What environmental impact would it have if the land needs to be shored up to stop sinking prior to building the proposed development?
7. What effect would the increased population density in the area have in terms of sewage, traffic circulation, egress to and from the bridge into the town, etc? Has a study been planned to address these potential problems?
8. What environmental impact would the addition of 18 boats and boat slips have at one of the narrowest part of the bay in this area, in terms of oil and gas leakage and exhaust? Has the ownership of underwater rights been exhaustively investigated?
9. Has the issue of the exact site the proposed development occupies been resolved to the Village's satisfaction? Has the request from Mr Tohill to Mr. Downes that he present an entirely new survey indicating only metes & bounds and a determination of title owners of all land in question been done?
10. The beachfront in question is supposed to have been deeded to the people of Sag Harbor for their common use. How will this proposed development impact that deed and that waterfront access?
11. Has the general problem of boat congestion and boat traffic congestion been addressed?
12. How will this proposed development and marina affect the Village's sewer system, ground or surface water quality, and traffic & noise levels??
13. How will the public right of way across village land alongside the bridge AND along the shore be protected in the event of development? How will cars enter & exit the proposed development, and what precautions will be taken to prevent traffic backing up on the bridge? Has a general impact study been mandated for neighboring communities like North Haven and Noyac?
14. The LWRP mandated that certain viewsheds are of paramount importance to the village and must be preserved. One that was specifically cited and in fact reproduced in the LWRP document is the view from the bridge looking at the One Ferry Rd site. Does the proposed development conflict with other officially adopted plans and goals as stated in the LWRP?
15. Doesn't this project represent an over-development in relation to acreage involved? Isn't there some proportionate land-to-use that should be considered?
16. Has the impact the proposed development will have on additional community services been studied? How will fire trucks have access to the site? Has the issue of school busing been considered, since it is a residential area cut off from the rest of the Village?
17. How would noise issues affect the community? Since the proposed development is on the water, and sound travels further in such a situation, has this problem been considered for both businesses nearby and residents across the bridge?
18. What provisions for affordable housing will the project entail?
19.Will the village be indemnified for any flooding that may occur to condominium units, or the property in general?
20. Has anyone measured the vertical scale of the new structure(s) compared to the nearby existing structures? The condos have the potential to create the feeling of a great barrier wall from within the village, not just the waterfront. Also, the height of the building will shadow the water. What effect will this have on the marine environment?
21. There will be a dramatic visual change in all directions if this project gets approved, affecting more than the view from bridge. The village should require that a virtual rendering of the project be created in the context of its surroundings, so the massiveness can be experienced from a 360 degree perspective.
22. Has anyone measured the reduction of air flow to that corner of the village? The massive structure situated on the open water will block air flow and make for a potentially uncomfortable environment on the village side of the condos.
23.As a residence, lights may be on day and night in the proposed development. How might this affect light pollution? And has the problem of glare from light on the windows at sunset for drivers going over the bridge been considered?
24. As a residence, schoolchildren will need to be bused to school. Has this need been addressed? and has the safety of children having to pass through the business district been addressed?
24.The proposed site may be an important paleo-archeological area for study. What provisions have been made to ensure that historically important artifacts and site information will not be damaged by construction?
25.If the units are not all rented or sold, what will be the economic impact on the village? If apartments are left empty, it could appear a depressed area just at the gateway of the village.
PLEASE SEE OUR "NEWS" PAGE FOR MORE EXCELLENT INFORMATION ON THIS DEVELOPMENT!


The fight against formula-based retail (chain stores) invading Sag Harbor continues!
If you are interested in an informative document on this subject, we welcome you to peruse this downloadable text about "local language" being used in their prevention, click below:
To Our Members:
Save Sag Harbor has received 501(c)4 status from the Internal Revenue Service. Although we had originally applied for a 501(c)3 well over a year ago, it was recently proposed by the Internal Revenue Service in reviewing our application that we first acquire 501(c)4 status for our New York non-profit corporation. This was suggested because some of our activities, like our "Shop Locally" campaign, belong to the category of a civic association, in which funds are devoted to charitable and educational purposes for the community. Unfortunately, contributions to this type of organization are rarely tax deductible. We are now beginning the process of organizing a second non-for-profit corporation which will house our activities that are more in keeping with the activities of one having a 501(c)3 status.
As always, we thank you for your contributions to Save Sag Harbor's efforts.
Our report on January 29, 2009, very important DGEIS (Draft Generic Environmental Impact Statement) public hearing:
Forgive the length, but believe us, this is the short version!
By way of introduction, Mayor Ferraris began the hearing by saying that the process for the revision of the zoning code to this point started 2 years ago in response to the possibility of large developments occurring in Sag Harbor, and the disposition of the Gruen Building on Main Street. The Zoning Board of Appeals had complained of a need for a better code, and felt it was a patchwork document in need of amending. Trustee Scarlato began the work on it, but it was decided that outside input was needed and so Richard Warren & Anthony Tohill were asked to contribute. Two public meetings were held late in the summer and fall of 2007. The majority of comments were about adequacy of infrastructure and the historical value of the village. Warren developed a document describing the concerns of individuals in relation to the Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan, land use, affordable housing, reconsideration of zoning districts, establishment of size restrictions for new retail, etc. Twenty or so planning recommendations were therefore made, including but not limited to redefining uses to promote shopping trade, define a new district (the Office District), establish standards & tables for uses for properties, shift assessments from the ZBA to the Planning Board, adjust parking regulations, promote outdoor dining, modify the site plan review process, protect natural resources, consider affordable housing, etc. The Village held numerous informational meetings mid-2008, and received many comments which produced many revisions in code (reduced size of the OD, adjusted expedited site plan review process for sizes below 3000SF, removed the accessory apartments provision for the second floor of businesses) and now, an allowance of offices as a use of 2nd floor spaces has been made and is incorporated in the newest, but as yet unpublished, code.
Trustee Scarlato spoke, saying she has been pleased with the Board's interaction with the public. She feels the revision of the zoning code is fair, even-handed, and gives adequate guidelines to all the village boards.
The Mayor then suggested using the remaining issues mentioned previously by the Sag Harbor Business Association and Save Sag Harbor to open up a dialogue.
In brief (it was a 3-hour meeting!), Ted Conklin, Michael Eicke, Phil Bucking, Jane Holden and others raised issues about the code that they felt might in fact harm businesses and their ability to deal with the current economic crisis. While we are well aware of this, and share their concern that the code aid the growth of business without putting the Village at risk for development by big box and formula-based retail, we felt that the Mayor and Board answered their concerns with patience and clarity, and frequently expressed the same goal as they and we, that of keeping Main St healthy while maintaining its character. Some of the main issues addressed were the site plan review process itself (it was mentioned that businesses having difficulties establishing themselves in the last year or so were not having problems because of the new code but rather because of the moratorium, and that after the passage of the new code an expedited site plan review for businesses less than 3,000 SF (which make up the vast majority of businesses in Sag Harbor) would make it much easier for businesses to change hands. The classification system used for this purpose was defended as good practice. The Mayor mentioned that the new Code would neither promote nor restrict new business, and Trustee Gilbride said that it may, however, speed up the process of affecting business change. Many of the business people mentioned their desire for a more transparent process with which to work with the Mayor and Village Board. We agree, and also recognize that the Village felt it necessary to follow a certain bureaucratic procedure in the revision of the code. The SHBA has hired a firm, EEK Associates, to present their assessment of the Code and the DGEIS.
As for businesses under 3,000 SF, the Mayor emphasized that in these cases, no site plan review will be mandated. We note that we had wanted this process to apply to all businesses over 2,000 SF (in order to better discourage chain stores), but the Mayor and Board felt the 3,000 SF cutoff was fair.
Some mention was made of the function of the ARB vs the ZBA. Jane Holden was particularly concerned about the validity of Certificates of Occupancy under the new code, and the Mayor mentioned that whatever use was grandfathered in (which applies to ALL of Main St) will remain. He also humorously mentioned that brothel use in the past would probably not now stand from ancient C of Os.
Several people spoke out in favor of the code, including Jill Sherrer, Chris Kelly (lawyer for Duncan Darrow), and Jeff Bragman, who represents us. Jeff Bragman cited many changes more recently made by the board, in particular the freeing up of uses for 2nd floors with which we agreed with the SHBA as an important economic necessity, but argued that increased numbers of offices and banks on Main St would be counterproductive to a lively retail atmosphere, saying that the creation of an Office District gives the Village "breathing room". He also emphasized that Save Sag Harbor feels it is in the interest of the community at large that the code is passed, emphasized that it will be amendable, restated that we do not oppose the SHBA, and that we want to recognize everyone's importance in this code-creating process. He said that Main St represents a community of interest, and that as long as the draft revision bears a reasonable relationship to facilitating the proper resale and reuse of property, it is going to produce a good, usable, and essentially modest code that will not adversely affect the economy now, and will help protect the Village in the future, getting us up to speed with other forward-thinking communities.
Parking problems were brought up, and we look forward to reviewing studies already done on this important issue, and to working with merchants and the Village Board in seeking creative solutions.
The Mayor & Board also mentioned that sewage consultants have been hired and that there is not a problem with sewage capacity.
A few people brought up the need to examine issues in the Residential district (B&Bs, day care centers, etc) and it is unclear whether there will be more meetings about these issues.
We feel that the meeting was excellent, helped better explain many issues, and in fact was much more a dialogue than previous meetings had been, which we feel was appreciated by all in the audience.
We invite you to have a look at our 2008 Year-End Report, which is available for download
by clicking HERE. As is the case with the documents on the Village's website,
you will need an Adobe "Reader", a simple portable document format (pdf)-opening application,
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The older proposed design
It's worth pointing out that, although this new design is supposedly fewer units
than the old one, it clearly takes up as much space in height and width








